Deborah Meaden doesn't pull any punches. "Has anyone ever tried to limit me because I'm a woman? Absolutely, but only for about 30 seconds," says the Dragons' Den entrepreneur.
It's this no-nonsense attitude which Deborah, 58, is famous for as the longest-serving female investor on the popular BBC programme. With her razor-sharp tongue she is often seen dressing down trembling entrepreneurs who fumble their finances.
Indeed Deborah has a fearsome reputation. Yet during our interview it is her no-holds-barred attitude that makes me warm to her the most.
In our interview, she chatted passionately about everything from the environment to Donald Trump, and no topic was off-limits.